3rd Option for Office/Mezzanine
Added 2024-04-04 14:33:19 +0000 UTCDoor under the stairs seems to be the runaway favorite. But what if I reversed it?
Just to clear things up, the ground floor will be an office and electronics work area. The second floor will be storage.
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Doug Wray
2024-04-14 09:52:44 +0000 UTCBottom of the stairs facing the wall will be a problem sooner or later 🤷
Gary Rogerson
2024-04-06 01:48:24 +0000 UTC#3! Easier to get the forklift in place, you go upstairs the least often so putting stairs at the back makes sense
Ed W
2024-04-06 00:45:57 +0000 UTC#2 is best in my opinion. Biggest problem i see with option 3 is anytime you want to get something you have to walk clear to the back of the shop and turn around to walk the other way. Plus if you're dragging something bigger up the stairs you more have a corner on the stairs to deal with rather than just walking straight up
Baron van Oosting
2024-04-06 00:14:30 +0000 UTCI like the 3rd one, but i think the bottom turning steps will be an ankle breaker. I think a landing for turning will be safer when you try to carry that one heavy transmission when the forklift is appart and spread out all over ;-)
Terry Lawrence
2024-04-05 22:16:35 +0000 UTCIf you need to move anything big and awkward into the office those posts will be inconvenient. Pivot, pivot, pivaught!
Thaddeus Ryan
2024-04-05 12:33:41 +0000 UTC#3 ... the only thing is , somebody's gonna wipe out the landing supports
Eric Halcik
2024-04-05 07:02:52 +0000 UTCI prefer option 2. It seems like the walls in option 3 would be limiting, and just an added expense for a storage room.
Stan Wright
2024-04-05 05:44:53 +0000 UTCNot everything warrants a forklift, sometimes it's just quicker to carry it.
Anthony deFreitas
2024-04-05 04:51:28 +0000 UTC3rd one looks pretty good, with more open access to the space under the stairs for shelves/storage of some sort.
Keith Mezzina
2024-04-05 03:32:08 +0000 UTCApproved!!! Make it so ...
Lance C
2024-04-05 03:26:33 +0000 UTC3rd option looks like a winner
Craig D Renwick
2024-04-05 02:36:53 +0000 UTCThird option for me
Merritt Derr
2024-04-05 01:02:47 +0000 UTC3rd option.
Michael Wright
2024-04-04 22:37:18 +0000 UTCWell I like the 3rd option best so far. However I would puts sometime into routing the electrical, air and if needed water before you go much further. I hate doing things twice because I got so wrapped up in the first steps of a project... Look who I'm talking to, Mr. Project himself...
Jon Koferl
2024-04-04 22:00:03 +0000 UTCdoor at the back
gregory mais
2024-04-04 21:36:09 +0000 UTCNeh, no bueno.
terence g barrera
2024-04-04 21:27:42 +0000 UTCLooks like third times the charm
Michele Crown
2024-04-04 21:22:16 +0000 UTCI still like option 2 the best. It just seems to be the right design for a working shop (yeah, I can’t put that into better words). It’s efficient use of space, no awkward turn while you’re up against a wall, and it allows you to swing the door open into the office without it being in the way if you choose to keep it open.
Russell Wall
2024-04-04 20:51:42 +0000 UTC3rd option is the best. I agree with Douglas R. about railings.
@KanoeKing
2024-04-04 20:44:12 +0000 UTCThats just the best excuse to build a crane to hoist things up and down or perhaps a dumb waiter
Tim Allan
2024-04-04 19:25:36 +0000 UTCI like the 3rd option better, although I would have a removable railing on the landing. and a permanent one on the stairs.
Douglas Roelofs
2024-04-04 19:15:49 +0000 UTCSpiral staircases are a nightmare for carrying anything up or down unless they are extremely wide.
Chris M
2024-04-04 19:11:18 +0000 UTCYeah this looks like a better use of space. You could go even wilder and have that end wall above the windows on a hinge mechanism that can be swung up via a winch mounted to the roof structure. You'd then have a large area to "reach" in with the forks. It could be that secret hidden bookcase that opened to your secret room that we all wanted as a kid. :)
Casey Hill
2024-04-04 18:48:20 +0000 UTCWhat would you carry by hand if you have a fork lift ? I see ur point but everything inconvenient to carry by hand, Wes would use his fork lift for I guess
Fabian Kropp
2024-04-04 18:43:16 +0000 UTCThat might be above my skill set. I have tried to buy them, but they are out of my price range.
Watch Wes Work
2024-04-04 18:25:03 +0000 UTCAgain better use of space
brian cook
2024-04-04 18:10:04 +0000 UTC3rd option is my favourite then. Most easy way to drop off stuff from the forklift.
thedeafguitarist
2024-04-04 17:53:57 +0000 UTC3rd option looks awkward if you're carrying by hand.
Anthony deFreitas
2024-04-04 17:52:16 +0000 UTCNah. I don't like it nearly as much with the door next to the windows
Martin lewis
2024-04-04 17:52:08 +0000 UTCWes, you’re asking too much of me, go with the forklift option.
Bill Scott
2024-04-04 17:26:49 +0000 UTC@WesleyTreat has it all figured out for you already. Or @Mustie1.
Scott Finger
2024-04-04 17:26:38 +0000 UTCThe best choice yet!
David Hardenbrook
2024-04-04 17:18:56 +0000 UTCCall in reinforcements. Your dad owes you a few hours of labor for keeping his barn from falling down!
Terry Thompson
2024-04-04 16:39:37 +0000 UTCYep, this option works. Better forklift access. Consider a wider door upstairs.
Bruce Rose
2024-04-04 16:19:26 +0000 UTCLooks like it would work just fine..........good luck.
Dennis Lesh
2024-04-04 16:18:04 +0000 UTCThis is a clever improvement and would get my vote. How about trying out your fabrication skills and building a spiral staircase?
Tim Allan
2024-04-04 16:12:34 +0000 UTCThis version is the best yet! The stairs are great but for larger stuff and extra wide pallets, you could put double doors swing out doors on the front side of the upper level (the side facing the rollup garage doors). Youtuber Mustie1 made an elevator out of a broken man lift. Maybe you could go that route. Also a dual-tap Kegerator in the office would be a great way to relax after a hard day's work. :)
Britt A Releford
2024-04-04 16:10:10 +0000 UTCYeah I'd go with this
carter filiau
2024-04-04 16:09:32 +0000 UTCYup! Edit: In thinking about it, you could also cantilever the floor joists into the landing and eliminate the columns (general rule is 2/3 in, 1/3 out; your overhang is well under the 1/3 limit). I suggest this because columns in industrial spaces have a nasty habit of getting very personal with forktrucks.
Nicholas Hansford
2024-04-04 16:07:16 +0000 UTCPretty close to six of one or half dozen of the other... but the increased access to the loading platform on #3 swings it for me...
Zach Marsh
2024-04-04 16:03:55 +0000 UTCThis is best. Use the swing space for the door over a window, which would likely be unblocked anyway.
Bill
2024-04-04 16:00:06 +0000 UTCLooks good to me.
CapnMac82
2024-04-04 15:58:46 +0000 UTC#3 is what I would want for me.
Bill Rutherford
2024-04-04 15:56:50 +0000 UTC3rd option looks to be the best option yet.
John Lottes
2024-04-04 15:49:20 +0000 UTCYeah I like this one over the other two options
James
2024-04-04 15:40:13 +0000 UTCWes, if you would stop eating and sleeping, that frees up another 8 hours a day to work on stuff.
Mike Hawkins
2024-04-04 15:39:08 +0000 UTCYes, I believe this is the best of the three designs.
Mike Hawkins
2024-04-04 15:37:46 +0000 UTCCan’t use the fork lift for everything
Isaac Wheeler
2024-04-04 15:34:49 +0000 UTCI can confirm that split would bring some excitement to your life. We are renting a house with "45° stair" turn halfway up. We've tripped more than once on it.
Thorman
2024-04-04 15:34:45 +0000 UTCWould it be a good idea to leave the landing removable at the top of the stairs to make it easier to put heavy things up on the second floor? I like the plan.
Brien Devine
2024-04-04 15:33:08 +0000 UTCI'd love to, but I know how I work, and I don't see that getting finished this decade.
Watch Wes Work
2024-04-04 15:32:42 +0000 UTCYes and yes.
Watch Wes Work
2024-04-04 15:31:47 +0000 UTCDefinitely prefer this one. It's gonna look so professional.
Jonathon
2024-04-04 15:31:15 +0000 UTCI still recommend removing the stairs and build an elevator platform.
Terry Thompson
2024-04-04 15:28:43 +0000 UTCI agree, this will work out much better. The double doors for loading would be safer, my opinion.
Matt
2024-04-04 15:24:26 +0000 UTCWhy not just have the office upstairs? Too hard on the knees or too hot in the summer?
sean
2024-04-04 15:18:32 +0000 UTCNot knowing what type of storage is desired, I think storage would work better being open with railings that are able to flip up out of way.
Bumps
2024-04-04 15:17:53 +0000 UTCI like #3 better. Although if you are hand carrying something up the steps that is bulky or awkward it might be tougher to turn that corner. Of course if you keep a path clear for the forklift that option is still there. How likely to keep enough clear to use the lift? Or only store small items above in general.
Peter Church
2024-04-04 15:15:34 +0000 UTCAssuming the upper floor can handle the load ... opening wide enough for a pallet, then forklift leaves pallet on platform and pallet jack moves it wherever in the loft. Saves on the back.
Arvid Jedlicka
2024-04-04 15:12:05 +0000 UTCThat's probably also easier to build.
Watch Wes Work
2024-04-04 15:10:03 +0000 UTCSeems like you should put the thing you use the most on the bottom. The old setup was an office above and I never used it.
Watch Wes Work
2024-04-04 15:09:01 +0000 UTCAgree with all the guys who said "I'll trip on that split landing", geez did I work with you before?
steve norton
2024-04-04 15:05:52 +0000 UTCI would have double doors that open on the wall to use as drop area for fork lift and use stairs as access to walk up stairs.
Alan Bourassa
2024-04-04 15:05:46 +0000 UTCNumber 3
Taylor Jennette Zhu
2024-04-04 15:03:33 +0000 UTCLooks good, but the upper door needs to be bigger for easier forklift access
Nick Hough
2024-04-04 15:02:06 +0000 UTCI believe that is what the forklift access is for, just raise it straight up to the doorway?
Callan Christensen
2024-04-04 15:01:33 +0000 UTCIf you care about building code compliance, that landing in option 3 wouldn't be allowed. You could fix it by having a full size landing (guessing 3x3) and one additional step on the return. It's also safer. When I build stairs to storage loft access, I prefer to go a bit wider to 4'. It makes carrying boxes feel a lot more stable.
Nicholas Hansford
2024-04-04 15:00:15 +0000 UTCwhy not use the upper area for an office and ground for storage ?
JC
2024-04-04 14:58:55 +0000 UTCConsider extending the floor joists out under the platform & strengthen the upright supports. Heavy overhead loads above a walkway and all.
Los
2024-04-04 14:55:52 +0000 UTCI think option 3 is best, lots of room for forklift maneuvering for the second level landing.
Kowyn Hibbert (Warrior of the Rusty Wrench)
2024-04-04 14:53:54 +0000 UTCDouble landing at the bottom would be a deal breaker for me. Too hard to navigate.
Rich Wielechowski
2024-04-04 14:53:47 +0000 UTCI suppose that's true. I guess the question is which wall would be more useful to have open. I'm not a fan of the turn at the bottom of the stairs. I can imagine negotiating that coming down with a load of stuff in my arms and missing a step.
Scott Finger
2024-04-04 14:51:45 +0000 UTCYeah I should make it bigger.
Watch Wes Work
2024-04-04 14:51:15 +0000 UTCThis is the best of the three options. Leave enough space between the posts for desks, couches, printers and bigger items to be maneuvered (L”d) in to the door.
Marshall
2024-04-04 14:49:50 +0000 UTCSomehow, I think with option 3 you will always be having issues with the bottom of the staircase getting blocked with 'stuff'. Plus, it may be harder to carry some 'stuff' up the stairs with the extra curve at the bottom of the steps. Option 2 looks less likely to get fouled by things.
centauri61032
2024-04-04 14:49:47 +0000 UTCThe split landing is a fall hazard. I can't recall ever having seen one in a modern commercial building. There's a good reason for that. Just imagine coming down that with a heavy box in your arms. It's not ideal.
Christopher Hogan
2024-04-04 14:49:39 +0000 UTCThis is now the better option. Easier fork truck access and stays compact.
William Watson
2024-04-04 14:49:10 +0000 UTCI think this is the better option as you have better access for the forklift. Also you could have a whiteboard for notes to left off door for store requirements etc. Easily visible when you enter office.
Ian McKay
2024-04-04 14:48:09 +0000 UTCLeft a comment on previous post proposing this option this morning. Great minds... something something
Michael Stern
2024-04-04 14:46:54 +0000 UTCThere will be a railing. I was thinking some kind of gate that I can swing open when needed.
Watch Wes Work
2024-04-04 14:45:48 +0000 UTCIf I'm thinking about it right, it just trades one wall for another wall. A spiral staircase would be ideal, but that's out of my budget.
Watch Wes Work
2024-04-04 14:45:09 +0000 UTCLooks good, I think I would add a double door over the widows if you want to fork anything wider than say 30" it will be much easier.
Matthew Hodkins
2024-04-04 14:44:41 +0000 UTCWould you want a wider door for the storage area? No telling what you might come up with that needs to go up there. Something wide enough to allow a pallet to fit through the doorway.
South Street Barbecue
2024-04-04 14:44:24 +0000 UTCIt keeps my knees in shape. Not necessarily the right shape...
Watch Wes Work
2024-04-04 14:44:08 +0000 UTCI like this version. Seems like the most access for the least square feet of the shop lost.
Shimjocky
2024-04-04 14:44:02 +0000 UTCWith the forklift access, the stairs should only be for Wes to carry himself up the stairs. :)
South Street Barbecue
2024-04-04 14:42:35 +0000 UTCGood morning, Wes. It looks good. The only thing is that accessing stored goods may be difficult if everything is placed on pallets, with only one narrow access to the mezzanine, requiring a pallet jack and space to maneuver on the top floor.
Cesar
2024-04-04 14:42:25 +0000 UTCLooks like a good solution to me Wes.
David Yates
2024-04-04 14:41:21 +0000 UTCThis looks good, better access for the forklift than having to maneuver directly next to the wall
Greg
2024-04-04 14:41:04 +0000 UTCYou might consider adding a garage door or other way to access the second floor storage area with a forklift boom. That way you could put heavier stuff up there like spare electric motors, pallet jack, etc.
Jeff_M_PA
2024-04-04 14:41:00 +0000 UTCAnother option would be an elevator lift for pallets accessible by a pallet jack to reduce the need to have forklift swing space taking up all your floor space.
Stephen Meeks
2024-04-04 14:40:54 +0000 UTCI’ll be the detractor. #2 seems to offer the best safety for human access carrying parts up and down. Without a railing on #3 (which is problematic given the dual use as forklift access), you’re one trip away from a one story fall and a fun 911 call for wifey.
Scott Childress
2024-04-04 14:40:27 +0000 UTCWhat if you did the green version and put the door under the stairs? Would free up all that wall space for activities. Although, depending on the clearance under the stairs, door swing might be an issue and require a slider.
Scott Finger
2024-04-04 14:40:21 +0000 UTCI've not seen the first 2 drawings.
Jeffry Blackmon
2024-04-04 14:39:07 +0000 UTCI definitely prefer this set up.
Curtis Roberts
2024-04-04 14:38:27 +0000 UTCYou aren't showing a railing, which would be required. That makes for a tight turn at the bottom, which can make it difficult to carry stuff up/down. I like the idea someone else had the other day for a lift. Keep the stairs as emergency backup, and install a lift. You are going to get real tired of climbing those stairs.
Dr. Internet
2024-04-04 14:38:06 +0000 UTCThis seems to be the best option. I think the other landing idea would have forced you to get extremely close to the shop wall with the forklift depending on what you're putting up there
silly cat
2024-04-04 14:37:57 +0000 UTCWe had a mezzanine on which we stored items on pallets and shelves. We used the landing as a pallet landing and used a pallet jack to move pallets around. The guard rail included a removable chained section for access and safety. Your drawing looks similar and would give you a lot of options.
Stephen Meeks
2024-04-04 14:37:47 +0000 UTCThe door by the windows makes more sense. Go with this one.
Steve Walker
2024-04-04 14:37:33 +0000 UTCI like it , and storage on top I think would be better
Shawn Patrick Medlin
2024-04-04 14:36:29 +0000 UTCI did not vote before because I dod not like either one. Good thing, Because THIS IS THE WAY WES ;)
Christopher
2024-04-04 14:36:19 +0000 UTCToo hard to carry large/heavy/long items around the bend at the bottom of the stairs.
Isaac Wheeler
2024-04-04 14:36:17 +0000 UTCJust depends where you're workbench will be in proximity to the windows, i suppose. I like it.
Adam McKnight
2024-04-04 14:35:36 +0000 UTCMakes more sense to me
ɥsoſ uʍop ǝpᴉsd∩ (ʘ︹ʘ)
2024-04-04 14:35:35 +0000 UTCI like this one. You could build some under stairs storage and the tallest, most useful part would be right by the door to your workshop.
Richard Smith
2024-04-04 14:35:31 +0000 UTCIf you are not going to use the stairs many times, it's not an issue if it is harder to reach.
Vladik Marinovski
2024-04-04 14:35:28 +0000 UTCI like this one the best!
Robert
2024-04-04 14:34:57 +0000 UTCI like it! Looks good to me!
Greg G.
2024-04-04 14:34:51 +0000 UTCThis!
paul gibbs
2024-04-04 14:34:39 +0000 UTCI like this one of the 3
Matthew Jeffrey
2024-04-04 14:34:24 +0000 UTCThe best
James Riordan
2024-04-04 14:34:05 +0000 UTC
